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In this episode Pastor Randy sits down with his friend Pastor Rob Ketterling of Rivervally Church! Making changes can be though but keeping that change can be even more difficult. We loved this conversation on how to keep lasting change. It was encouraging, vulnerable and practical. We hope you enjoy it!

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We continue the conversation with recording artist and soon to be church planter, Tauren Wells. We hope you enjoy the rest of the conversation!

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In this episode Pastor Randy sits down with 10 time Grammy
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In this episode we sit down with our very own Executive Director of Worship & Publishing, Brandan Bustamante. We get into all the details of our process for writing our own worship music!

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In this episode Pastor Randy sits down with his friends Pastor Shaun and Dianna Nepstad of Fellowship Church in California. They have a rich conversation around parenting and what we can do better to steward our own children!

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Are your staff values clear to the people who you are leading? It is so important as leaders to know the values in which you want your teams to follow. In this special episode we are joined by Pastor Daniel Floyd of Lifepoint Church! We get really practical on how to form and implement good staff values in your teams.

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How has culture changed the landscape of how we do church? Join us for this special Episode with Pastor John Siebeling of The Life Church as we dive into this relevant topic!

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In this episode Pastor Randy sits down with his brother, Pastor Rick Bezet! The conversation is parenting and empty nesting. We laughed so many time during this conversation but also leaned in a learned a lot. We hope you enjoy the episode!

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In this special episode Pastor Randy has a really open and honest conversation with Pastor Tim Ross about his journey of starting "The Basement" podcast. Tim's honesty and vulnerability is so encouraging throughout this conversation.

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During Relate Conference we sat down for a Live podcast recording with two special guests. We dove into the topic of our changing culture and what we as the church can do better at leading.

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In this special episode of The Relational Leader Podcast Pastor Randy is joined by none other than John Maxwell!

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John shares some powerful principles on how we can all learn to receive a return on failure. Enjoy the conversation!

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In this special episode we are joined by a brand new guest on the podcast, Pastor Noah Herrin. He and his wife have a huge passion for reaching young adults and are planting a brand new church in Nashville, TN.

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In this special episode we are joined by Cody Byrns. In May of 2013, Cody’s life was drastically changed. While stopped at a red light on the highway, Cody was rear-ended by a box-truck that failed to stop. As a result, he was considered dead until first responders saw his hand move. He received many injuries that day, including severe burns to almost 40% of his body. After years of countless surgeries and rehabilitation, Cody has chosen to not allow his scars to keep him bound in bitterness and defeat. Instead, he uses his story to uplift others.

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In this special episode we are joined by the one and only Pastor Tim Somers! Pastor Tim oversees all of the Youth at Elevation Church. What better topic to have a conversation around than the next generation. This episode was full of great stories, learning moments and practical tips to help reach the next gen in a effective way!

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